Showing posts with label Marvel US.. Show all posts
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Thursday, 19 May 2011

Thoughts on Disney calling time on Panini's UK originated Marvel material.



Well, now that Blogger appears to be back up and running properly again, and I've got a chance to put this up...

I signed off the last Blog Post I put out by mentioning the rather excellent Death's Head and Hulk story by Simon Furman and Simon Williams, from the UK newsagent comic Marvel Heroes. I hope you all went and grabbed yourself a copy. Firstly because it as really good. But secondly, rather disappointingly, because it may well be one of your last opportunities to enjoy such a story for quite some time.

Last week Bleeding Cool put up the bad news, that Disney (Who are Marvel Comics' Parent Company, these days) had decided to call time on allowing Panini to produce new strips featuring Marvel characters for their younger reader focussed Sensational Spider-man and Marvel Heroes comics. It is something which I can't say comes as an absolute surprise. Last year I blogged about the announcement that Disney were to take over the full handling of Marvel's International licensing and what that might mean for the future of Panini's UK market Marvel books. Nevertheless, it is rather disappointing news.

When Marvel UK was wound up and broken down Panini acquired many of its former parts. In particular the Doctor Who Magazine and reprint rights for Marvel's American titles in the UK. Since the mid 90s they have been reprinting Marvel books in monthly 'Collectors Editions' comprising three standard US issues for the price of roughly one US book, along with fortnightly licensed titles from the Ultimate Comics line and in more recent years new material in the form of Sensational Spider-man and Marvel Heroes. Sensational Spider-man was the first to do that. It was originally a tie-in to the 90s Fox TV cartoon of Spider-man (Remember that?). But when they ran out of material attached to that series the book continued, with new strips originated by artists and writers here in the UK. The first since the closure of Marvel UK.

And you know what? They've actually been pretty darn good too - bringing in characters such as Captain Britain, the Black Knight, Union Jack and Spitfire, even Death's Head into these new stories - introducing younger readers to characters beyond the rosters of The Avengers or X-Men for the first time. And while these are non-canon stories, aimed at a younger readership, the art is always strong and well coloured and the stories themselves are pitched spot on for their intended audience.

In short, Panini have been doing a good solid job.

And that's why the news that this arrangement has come to an end is such disappointing news.

Now I can see why Disney might have decided to make this move. At least on paper. They own Marvel Comics - including all its properties and characters - and paid a lot of money to acquire that.

They don't own Panini. In fact over in mainland Europe Disney and Panini are even direct publishing competitors.

Disney's point of view is probably that they are unhappy to have a competitor producing new comics featuring characters owned by Disney.

And on paper, that's understandable.

But not the whole picture.

Because here in the UK at least, that's not really true.

Here in the UK Panini are not the competition.

They are pretty much the totality of Marvel Comics' company's presence in the magazine racks of Newsagents and Supermarkets across the UK. They're also the company's presence in a lot of bookstores, where Panini's version of many Marvel trade paperback collections are on the shelves ahead of their US published counterpart, and often include much better introductions, back matter and the like.

In the UK Panini effectively ARE Marvel Comics. It's the Marvel name on the covers of their comics, and the Marvel name on the spines of their paperback collections.

While Disney might see this as asserting themselves over a competitor, the UK comics market and that of the larger countries in mainland Europe are very different. Here in Britain the Newsagent still remains the primary outlet for comics. US market books are only sold in specialist Comic Book and Collectibles stores, of which there are still not that many in the UK and Ireland. Through Panini, Disney get the Marvel name on Newsagents shelves. Right now, without them they don't.

If Marvel Heroes and Sensational Spider-man were to disappear from UK shelves, as a result of this decision, it wouldn't be a blow dealt to the competition by Disney. It would be much more like cutting off their nose to spite their face. Because in reality all that it would actually achieve is the removal of two Marvel titles from the racks - reduction of coverage for Marvel Comics in the UK's primary sales outlets.

Does that really do them any favours?

I actually wouldn't have thought so.

Now I know that I come from a very different age of comics (Arguably a golden age in some respects) when Marvel owned a UK office, and new content was not only allowed to be originated here but also allowed to intermingle with licensed properties too. I know that was a bit of an ideal age. I know that Panini are not Marvel UK.

But this news does sadden me to hear, nonetheless. It irritates the heck out of me, if I'm honest.

Firstly, because that Disney's decision to stop Panini producing new material of this kind means that another avenue for British comic creators to get regular paid work has been closed. And there really aren't many of those left in the UK comics industry. Aside from 2000 AD and CLiNT it's almost exclusively a US reprint market these days. That's how things have ended up, sadly. And while the borders for working in American comics have come down a lot in the past 20 years, it's another blow for comics in this Country.

But secondly it once again raises an issue which I've been wondering about quite a bit over the past couple of years. It gets brought up again and again at UK cons - where are the next generation of comics readers? I'm a 31 tear old male. Marvel's current output is very much aimed at my kind of demographic, an audience which can embrace adult themes and content. But in terms of all-ages material, Marvel comics really has stopped publishing that.

You know, one of my favourite books of the past year was an all-ages friendly Marvel Book. That was Thor: The Mighty Avenger by Roger Langridge and Chris Samnee. It wasn't Marvel cannon, but it was well-written, had great art, and actually got me interested in Thor - a character I'd mostly written off in mainstream comics, because of his cod use of Ye Olde Englishe, and the frankly poor grasp of mythology which many writers using him seemed to have.

I got into reading that title through an issue in which Thor and The Warriors Three ended up going on a Pub Crawl, getting hopelessly lost, and barging into Captain Britain. Fighting/Bonding ensued. I loved that issue. And it got me back issue hunting.

This book got the right balance. Suitable for all ages, but not patronising or too derivative to put off older readers. It really was a back to basics approach to the character, which fitted in well with the Movie which is now in cinemas. And it gained some pretty solid critical acclaim, too.

So what happened to it?

Marvel cancelled it.

Because sales were not high enough. Sales gauged, one might argue, at estimations for a top selling adult book.

But here again is the problem I have with Marvel. Since the 1990s they have moved further and further away from producing books which are younger reader appropriate, let alone friendly. There have been some attempts at producing titles for that kind of age range, but more often than not these have primarily been adaptations of say the Fox TV cartoons of X-Men or Spider-man. They've never really been very good, or had much scope.

In a title like Thor: The Mighty Avenger the balance was so right. But Marvel weren't willing to back that. Because they don;t seem to see younger readers as an important area into which they want to expand their business. It seems for that they would rather put cartoons on the Disney Channel, and hope that kids who watch those move on to reading actual Marvel comics when they're older.

I personally think tat this approach is more than a little naive. Especially given that here in the UK the number of homes which even have access to Satellite TV (The means by which you can access the Disney Channel in the Britain and Ireland) is pretty small.

Comics and TV are two very different mediums. Expecting kids to become long-term regular comics readers automatically in their mid-teens (Which is pretty much the earliest age at which the bulk of Marvel's current output becomes suitable), when they have read no comics earlier in their life, is a bit of big ask.

Especially given the high cost of US comics.

To me it's just not realistic.

The success which Panini has had with it's own UK generated Marvel strips is proof, in my opinion, that there clearly is a market for Marvel comics for younger readers here. A market which Marvel US clearly cannot cater towards. They just don't make enough books for that target audience that could even be reprinted in their place.

I could understand if Disney's decision was motivated by some new interest in producing new all ages material themselves, and syndicating it across other Countries. But I see no evidence of this. It just seems more like stamping their authority down. In the meantime a good run of material comes to an end, and a gap on the shelves is created.

And as Rich Johnston points out in that Bleeding Cool article if Titan have any sense they'll put out an all-ages DC superhero title or two of their own, to fill that gap.

Most disappointing. Through Disney this definitely is Marvel's loss.

Monday, 31 May 2010

What I was up to this weekend...

If you live or work in London the chances are that you will have seen posters which look somewhat similar to this


as you've been negotiating the Tube.

Maybe you've even wondered what exactly it is?

Well, this past Saturday the kind people at Madame Tussauds invited me down to London to take a peak at this, their new 4D Marvel themed attraction.

So let me explain...

Marvel Super Heroes 4D is a mixture of what Tussauds does best (i.e. lifelike, to scale, wax models of characters and celebrities) and the current resurgence of 3D cinema. The theming is well done, part S.H.I.E.L.D. lab - part gallery of covers, mixing Classic Marvel characters in with their movie counterparts.

So, for example, you get Robert Downey Jr as Iron Man, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine and Samuel L Jackson as Nick Fury...





The entrance will (I say 'will' because the attraction is not yet open to the public - and we were let in through the back door) peel off directly from the rest of the Tussauds tour, leading you around The Hulk's gigantic legs and into a S.H.I.E.L.D. themed attraction area - complete with screens in the walls, rotating 'secret files' style bios of the characters in a given area.

Oh. And yes, like I say, the Hulk IS to scale...




He truly is HUGE! and incredibly (Pun probably intended) well sculpted. I've always felt that in other media to date the sheer size of The Hulk has been somewhat undersold, compared to his in-panel counterpart (Although the recent Hulk movies have pretty much gotten in right).

And, of course, it really wouldn't be Tussauds without the opportunity to take some daft photos...




Which I maybe enjoyed just a little TOO much...




Yeah. Maybe more than a little...





There's a number of props to aid you in you photographic tomfoolery - from Wolverine's claws or standing on ceiling with Spider-man, to a viewing glass designed to make you look like The Hulk and a stand up landscape which allows you to fake up flying around Westminster and Big Ben - as any ageing Captain Britain fan has surely ALWAYS wanted to do...

(Be proud of me. I resisted that one...)

But the main focus of all this is to lead you through to the 4D experience itself.

And I bet a few of you are asking exactly what makes it 4D, right now? Well, anybody who has experienced attractions like MuppetVision 3D at MGM Studios or Stitch's Great Escape! at Disneyworld in Florida will be in some way familiar with the principle. Marvel Super Heroes 4D has been built into the former site of the London Planetarium. Which means the screen itself is 360 dome above the auditorium - a perfect canvas for this kind of film. The 3D movie itself (Glasses supplied) is displayed principally to the front of the auditorium, but with extra images flashing up around the sides of the dome, at key points in the film. These take the form of bits of SHIELD technical data, and flashes of the targeting system from Iron Man's armour.

As you sit down in your seat, the SHIELD Mainframe instructs you to turn off your Mobile Phones lest you 'Make The Hulk ANGRY,' but what makes this show 4D is that IN that seat they've fitted with a few... extras.

Such as spray units to create the sensation of water splashing up at head height, and compressed air blasts around you legs to convey movement around you under faded lights. Pressure units mounted in the back of your chair poke your back at certain intervals, and the floor beneath you actively rumbles and shakes - all at specific points during the performance, to match up with what you're seeing on screen.

And it works pretty well, too. I've experienced a few of these kind of rides over the past few years, and I have to say that the combination of elements here strikes a really good balance. It was also, for fanboy sake, nice to hear several approved voices from Marvel's animated features and videogames providing voice talent here. It really helps to maintain a proper consistency.

I will be honest with you, though, I really didn't know what to expect from this, when I went along on Saturday. I tend to be a little bit sceptical when it compes to Marvel tie-ins in other media. But I'm happy to say that this is one attraction that really get things right. A balance of old and new, movie and animation.

We did spot a stray Jessica Alba, as Sue Storm of the Fantastic Four, who seemed a little out of place (The female character used in the movie sequence is actually Ms Marvel), but otherwise the effort made in getting the theming right is spot on, and has plenty potential for Tussauds to add to the exhibit as time goes on. Probably as more and more Marvel movies are rolled out. Maybe the addition of a Liv Tyler Betty Ross, a Scarlett Johanssen Black Widow, a Chris Evans Captain America, or a... whatsisname... Um... the guy from Home and Away (EDIT: It's Chris Hemsworth) THOR!

I also appreciated the very deliberate decision to set the 4D sequence itself in London, which I was lucky enough to get a chance to discuss with some of the Tussauds guys after the Q & A session. Rather than simply port over an out of place American setting. They told me it was a very deliberate choice, and one they fought hard for. I can tell you that there is a narrative reason for it, and it it really grounds it as a part of a British attraction and as part of Tussauds itself pretty seamlessly. Great work.



I'd always recommend Madame Tussauds as a place in London you should visit at least once anyway, regardless of your age, but put simply if you've got a kid who's into Marvel then they will love this! As an adult you'll be able to appreciate the 4D show's mechanics and (Of course) the daft photos opps are a must. But for the insane fanboys, who might be reluctant, one very interesting point did come up in the Q & A session on Saturday, which might be of interest to you...

A question was raised as to whether, during the development of creating the 4D movie, the creators had been given any access to designs for upcoming Marvel Movies, which might currently be in production.

The answer was a little diplomatic, as you might expect. We were told that the primary focus was always intended to be on the 'Classic Marvel' characters for the 4D movie. But, that said, there might be some possible similarities between the intended look of a certain floating vessel and its likeness seen towards the end of the 4D movie...

So, you never know... :D




For those of you interested in seeing this experience I believe that tickets for Marvel Super Heroes 4D were intended to go on sale on Sunday 30th May. But you can find more details HERE.

You can also find the attraction's microsite HERE.

There's also this trailer, showing (Obviously in this case 2D) clips from the movie sequence.



And if you do go and see it look out for the obligatory Stan Lee cameo. Can you spot it? :D

A big Thanks to Richard Orr, Joshua Wexler, Paula Barrett and the other guys at Tussauds for inviting us along, and also for giving me permission to post the photos above.

It was great fun, and I wish you all the best for when the doors open to the public.

Wednesday, 16 April 2008

Tom Brevoort on the possibility of another Marvel UK?

A little bit of a midweek update for you.

Firstly, you may have noticed a few costmetic changes on site, in the last few days. There's been a couple of logo changes, for a start, and a bit of a resort of tags. You can now also search the blog via a keyword search, at the top of the right hand site of the page. But probably the new function I am most pleased with is the Recent Comments field I've added to the right hand panel. This little widget allows blog visitors to see what's being most recently discussed. We've a lot of stuff on here now, and I'd hate to think that people wouldn't want to comment on an older entry, purely because they don't think anybody will see their comments. Now they will. Right onthe front page too.

Make use of these new functions, and let me know what you think.

So, oto the main focus of today's blog. In the last couple of years things have started to look a good deal rosier for British Characters in the Marvel Universe. We’ve had Wisdom, Union Jack and Spitfire turning up in the pages of Captain America, Union Jack's own limited series, and more recently a return for Clan Destine and New Excalibur giving way to Captain Britain & MI:13. It’s actually looking pretty good. Room for improvement, of course, but looking good nonetheless. If you’re like me, though, you’ll actually be wondering what the official word on the British characters might be, at Marvel. What do the people who call the shots think about those properties, or the concept of some more British produced Marvel material? Well, recently Tom Brevoort, Executive Editor at Marvel Comics, was asked a similar question over at his blog. For those of you unaware of who tom is, he’s a long standing editor, who’s been with Marvel since the late 80s, and regularly takes readers’ questions on his Marvel.com based blog.

(He has previously spoken out against at the adoption of the term ‘Earth 616’ at Marvel during the 1980s – and how he wishes people would stop that – but I won’t hold it against him).

Last month, a poster going by the name of ukdavew, asked Tom the following:

Posted by ukdavew on 2008-03-28 07:47:46: What's the current
thought within Marvel to the possibilities of expanding into new markets by
publishing more comics about non-American heroes? I grew up reading Marvel UK
titles such as Motormouth and Killpower, Captain Britain, Knights of Pendragon
and I see it as a real shame that kids today don't have the same choice. There's
the Panini comics (aimed at younger kids) or the more "typical" American faire.



So, in essence ukdavew is one of us – a Marvel UK fanatic of the early 90s. More power to him.

For those of you outside of the UK the Panini Comics he is referring to are primarily reprints of US titles, from both Marvel and from DC comics. They mostly reprint three US books per issue, monthly. It’s the format that seems to sell best in the UK, and indeed sells incredibly well. But the only real new material they put out is the Spectacular Spider-man comic, which certainly aims itself at the younger reader in presentational style.

But what of Tom’s view on it?

Tom Brevoort: I think these are two different questions. In the past, Marvel has been in the forefront of creating characters of different nationalities and different
backgrounds and making them important in the Marvel Universe. They haven't all
become major players, but a number of them have. However, I don't think this
does all that much to expand the market in other countries--while everybody
likes to have heroes they can directly relate to, I think that, in general, the
publishers in, say, India are more interested in publishing SPIDER-MAN than
MARVEL-HERO-FROM-INDIA. Marvel UK was a valiant attempt, but a relatively
short-lived one that came about in a marketplace that was very flush, and that
died out when that same marketplace began to contract. But we're now doing some
cross-publishing with Soleil, so you never know what might grow out of that if
things go well.


By ‘relatively short-lived’ I’m assuming he’s only referring to the imprint years…

Admittedly, he’s probably right. The reprint market is bustling right now, and by and large I don’t think any of us would be under the illusion that say a new line of Marvel UK titles would outsell the X-Men books, even here in the UK. But it certainly sounds to me that Brevoort, at least, is not totally against the idea. Even if he does appear to making that rather annoying assumption, which many Americans seem to have, that Britain is really that close to mainland Europe. Culturally we don’t seem to interact as closely I think some people stateside seem to believe we do.

The Soleil deal referred to here was announced back in January. Soleil are a French comics publisher, responsible for titles such as Sky Doll and Universal War One. The deal itself will allow both parties to reprint parts of each other’s material in their respective countries, which is simple enough. But more interestingly it appears to have started a bit of an artist and writer exchange between the two companies. A number of Marvel creators will be going over to France to create some new material for Soleil. We’re not quite talking about the creation of a Marvel Francais, here, but this could actually prove quite interesting.

For more info on Marvel’s deal with Soleil, go here:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=144451

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=131487

Thanks to Steven Carr for mailing me about that one. It’s actually got me thinking a bit about Marvel UK, as it was, and wondering what people might think about the concept of a British imprint in the current comic book climate. Would it succeed? What kind of conditions would have to be in place in order for it to do so? Is there even a need for it, or is a few British properties turning up in mainstream Marvel enough?

I’ll turn that one over to you…

Tom Brevoort’s blog “Blah Blah Blog” can be found at: http://www.marvel.com/blogs/